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Old 29-04-2020, 12:43 PM   #1
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See how ONR changes your water

Out of curiosity I have been performing a few test with ONR. One involved testing the theory that dirt sinks to the bottom of the container. In most cases it will anyway but does ONR speed the process up?

Here is 2L of water with a handful of sharp sand added.



Next, the mixture is agitated.



This is 10 minutes later. As you can see, there is not a lot happening although the water is still.



The next picture is the same unsettled sand but 5ml of ONR has been added and the whole lot stirred.

After 3 minutes you can see the difference. The sand has settled with a good amount of the cloudiness gone.
Very simple but it does demonstrate how ONR works in the bucket at least. The effect will likely be better with more ONR, 5ml in 2L is on the low side.



I am not a massive ONR user but there are times I use it. Less so just now, it depends on the car. I have probably used it so few times that I cannot comment on long term marring.

* Edit

Similar test with shampoo added a few posts down.

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Now do a test with an appropriate dilution of car shampoo and see what that does? I reckon it would be similar

As youve compared ONR to water but no one washes their car with just water it usually has soap in it so a comparison between ONR and Shampoo would be more beneficial as I think we all agree ONR is better in all ways than plain old water anyway
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Now do a test with an appropriate dilution of car shampoo and see what that does? I reckon it would be similar

As youve compared ONR to water but no one washes their car with just water it usually has soap in it so a comparison between ONR and Shampoo would be more beneficial as I think we all agree ONR is better in all ways than plain old water anyway
Rian, I did consider a normal shampoo test but with so many differing makes, results may differ. The reason I did this was down to a recent discussion in which ONR was described as little better than water and there are those who think it is no better. ie., it is no good so you may as well use water. Also, even if a regular shampoo does not show to do the same (but like you, I thought it may) I don't think it will persuade anyone to wash their car with ONR. The little experiment was not intended to convert anyone, only to show ONR does at least one thing that users feel it does.

Having said that, since you are Interested I will aim to get time and test a shampoo with a sample of the same sand at the appropriate dilution.

Thank you for your comment, it is cordially put and well received.
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Wouldn't shampoo foam up when agitated so seeing what the sand has done in the water hard to see? Would Need a clear bucket

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intresting thread

although if it takes several minutes most people will half way around the car before its settled
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Managed to get this done today.

In order are the 4 photos.

Top one shows the foamed up Born to be Mild 1:800



Sand added, froth removed.



Mixture agitated.



And finally, after a good 4 minutes, little change at which point I stopped as the difference between this and ONR is evident.



I don't think it will convert anyone but it may raise an eyebrow. I suppose adding a nominal amount of ONR to a regular wash may be helpful but I know it flattens shampoo from experience should that bother anyone.

What do you guys think?
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I really like that test, shows another angle of the product. Two bucket method with grit guards will go a long way to helping keep the mitt and wash solution cleaner.
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Managed to get this done today.

In order are the 4 photos.

Top one shows the foamed up Born to be Mild 1:800



Sand added, froth removed.



Mixture agitated.



And finally, after a good 4 minutes, little change at which point I stopped as the difference between this and ONR is evident.



I don't think it will convert anyone but it may raise an eyebrow. I suppose adding a nominal amount of ONR to a regular wash may be helpful but I know it flattens shampoo from experience should that bother anyone.

What do you guys think?
Awesome test and thank you for taking the comments on board, ONR is clearly doing something to the particles causing them to sink faster.

Is it possibly interfering with the water tension
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Is it possibly interfering with the water tension
I think the answer lies here.

The Water softening ability of ONR comes from bonding and removing minerals from water which takes place by the polymers in No Rinse in the same way as it bonds to dirt or other surfaces. The polymers remove minerals from water by bonding and trapping them similar to how they remove dirt particles and drop them down to the bottom of solution. There is nothing in soap that has that ability hence dirt or contaminants float in the solution.

From the link below

http://togwt1980.blogspot.com/2015/0...nr_24.html?m=1

The example I did was quite extreme, there will have been a lot of particles to deal with at once so to remove that cloudiness, it did a good job. Also, it did a lot inside of 3 minutes, I just saw little point waiting beyond that.

On reflection, it has helped the product in my eyes, should the rest of the claims be doubted, perhaps not so readily. ��

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Interesting, thanks for sharing. Of course you realise now you're gonna get people adding ONR to their bucket of regular shampoo. 😂
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