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Old 30-01-2018, 07:57 PM   #1
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waxtub gone?

Have waxtub left the manufactures and private label sub forums. If so that makes 3 in over a week or so obsession wax, wowo included.Not good for guys like me who only want to buy from sponsors on here. 2 of the above i have bought a lot of products off in the past because of the advice and help also given on their forum pages.i will have to look to other sponsors on here now.
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ps i forgot about OCD Wax who are also gone

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Old 30-01-2018, 08:09 PM   #2
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Does seem a shame, I'm in the same boat, I liked being able to get answers on subsections of the manufacturers but now look elsewhere!
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Old 30-01-2018, 08:15 PM   #3
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obsession wax and wowo's and waxtub are still trading just not on here and o.c.d has gone

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Old 31-01-2018, 01:32 AM   #4
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As much as I hated it I ended up joining Facebook as more and more stuff was going through it rather than forums. Hit me hard with the Maestro I'm restoring and lots on facebook but not much on the owners club forums

Ended up joining FB as a result. Have very few friends on it and really just use it for a chosen few groups.

Paul at Waxtub had messaged me through FB and like others he has other stuff to focus on unfortunately so didn't renew his membership this year but will hopefully come back next year.
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Old 31-01-2018, 08:43 AM   #5
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Iíve spoken with a lot of brands and the feeling is that DW is a bit of a clique. If you donít have enough avid fans shouting your name you can find ourself going nowhere. Just being there and posting, telling people about your products can be a total flop, if ou donít have friends helping. It is probably something DW should ask how to improve.
I dont agree with this 'clique' thing. This is one of the friendliest forums I know (I am on quite a few). Ask a question in here and you get a reply with suggestions, products and recommendations. I have been on many forums where the same questions are asked over and over and folks respond with 'FFS use the search', doesnt happen here, people are happy to give their input.

I am happy to hold my hand up and say I struggled to know the difference between a wax and a polish when I first joined but was given given great advice from members on here.

I think the issue maybe is that there are a lot of great companies selling great products but at quite a selective market (some of the reviews that John from Forensic Detailing makes my head spin at the amount of selection available, even in just the microfibres to take the products off!).

True, if your product is not getting raved about one month, it maybe seen as not good, which in my experience is far from true, its just competing with so many others and detailing is hardly for the masses. It just must be really tough for these guys to compete with so many other like products.

It must take a lot of time and effort to produce these products and we ALL only have 24hrs in a day.

Sorry, possibly gone off on a tangent, didnt meant to ramble on.
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Facebook is just very very easy to be able to send messages and communicate which is probably why a lot have moved to it.

I do think there is a certain number of "in crowd" names on here and unless you are offering cheap as chips products as a new manufacturer it is hard to get a look in.

That being said the forum itself is very friendly and people always seem willing to help.
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Old 31-01-2018, 09:07 AM   #7
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Iíve spoken with a lot of brands and the feeling is that DW is a bit of a clique. If you donít have enough avid fans shouting your name you can find ourself going nowhere. Just being there and posting, telling people about your products can be a total flop, if ou donít have friends helping. It is probably something DW should ask how to improve.
This may be true but surely small volume manufacturers just see DW as another way of exposing their products to an, admittedly enthusiastic, potential purchasing audience. DW should just be considered another source of social media exposure for their wares in addition to the likes of Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest etc. and other more traditional forms of product advertising.

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Old 31-01-2018, 12:51 PM   #8
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I think that FB is all well and good but the groups don't have the forum format and layout which can't be beaten for searching products and questions in an easy way. On FB, yes you can use the search tool, but too much information gets lost IMO
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Old 31-01-2018, 03:16 PM   #9
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I think that FB is all well and good but the groups don't have the forum format and layout which can't be beaten for searching products and questions in an easy way. On FB, yes you can use the search tool, but too much information gets lost IMO
This is spot on. Find the FB groups are a lot less grown up and more about who you know when it comes to posting. If certain people don't like what they see, a message to a few friends within the group and you're suddenly the subject of a witch hunt.
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Old 31-01-2018, 03:23 PM   #10
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facebook is free dw isnt...thats another reason why companies leave
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