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Old 30-05-2019, 02:52 PM   #1
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Questions about car storage - BH content!

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I've started a thread about protection for a car being laid up for a long period of time. I mention B-H products a lot in it as I am quite a B-H fan but I have put it in the 'General' section of the forum.

If there are people on here with specific knowledge of B-H products then I'd appreciate your comments, thanks. It's here:

https://www.detailingworld.co.uk/for...d.php?t=414281

(Mods: if I have broken the rules in doing this then apologies and please let me know which thread you'd like me to remove.)

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Old 31-05-2019, 09:19 AM   #2
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Writing at speed so forgive typos…

Dynax UC applied around the sills, wheel arch lip, valances etc is perfect, you could apply it to all of the painted surfaces, however this is not necessary where the garage has a good roof. But dampness from the ground means the lower panels are a must. Auto-balm on the upper panels – very effective. UC can also be used around the engine bay. It can be cleaned off with white spirits when the car emerges.

The enemy during storage will be condensation; the inner panels will be the ones that can suffer. If you can access and protect the inside of the wings, doors etc with S50 then this would be very useful.

Make up a 5% solution of atom-mac and place it in an open tray – an old decorator’s one will be good and place this tray under the centre of the car’s underbody (on the ground) Millions of rust preventing molecules will liberate from the solution in vapour phase and prevent any fixings, exhaust and other ferrous metal components from corroding. This works well in enclosed rooms where these molecules are able to sit un-washed away by rain and accumulate. Replace solution once the tray is dry.

If possible jack the car up and remove the wheels to prevent tyres flat spotting. Leave the car’s windows slightly open so air can move – very important. Before you park the car use an air-con bomb it will deposit an antimicrobial that will help stop mildew on interior surfaces.

If the car has a manual gearbox wedge the clutch pedal down by carefully bracing against the steering wheel with some timber – this will stop the clutch plate fusing by corrosion against fly wheel.

Keep some mouse traps in there too – many stored cars’ wiring has been destroyed.

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Pete,

Thanks - that is all properly helpful.

What is the difference between Dynax UC and Dynax S50, other than that one is clear?

UC around the edges and lips - yes. And around the engine bay - thanks. Do I need to worry about it catching fire if it gets hot (i.e. if I splash some on the exhaust manifold)? What does it do to rubber? Can I put it on brake calipers or will it eat the rubber seals?

Auto balm on the upper panels is a good idea. I'll apply it and leave it on (i.e. not buff it off).

Good point about putting S50 around the inside of the panels. I'll do that as well.

What is atom-mac? I've googled it to no avail. Changing the fluid in a try when it dries out will be quite frequent and I am not planning on going there more than once every 6 months or so but this sounds like an interesting idea.

Jacking the car up is something I will try to do but I'm not sure how much space there will be around the car and this may not be practical. The other point is that if the car is in there for 10 years then the tyres will be too old to use anyway. What it would allow me to do is take the brake pads out of the calipers and store them elsewhere as this will prevent them from seizing onto the disks. Blocking the clutch pedal down is a great idea for the same reason - thanks.

Air con bomb - thanks, that's a great idea.

Mice is something I am not going to be able to do much about. Traps are about my only option. Fortunately there is a colony of cats in the garage at the moment and I'm going to try and encourage them to stay which will help discourage mice. (Yes, it stinks of cat! No, this is not a bad thing!)

Thanks again for your help.
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Pete,

I've just discovered what Atom Mac is - thanks.

https://www.bilthamber.com/atom-mac-162
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Pete,

Thanks - that is all properly helpful.

You're welcome... answers below

What is the difference between Dynax UC and Dynax S50, other than that one is clear?

S50 is optimized for highly corrosive conditions in cavities - UC better on painted surfaces

UC around the edges and lips - yes. And around the engine bay - thanks. Do I need to worry about it catching fire if it gets hot (i.e. if I splash some on the exhaust manifold)?

No this will no catch fire but best avoid it

What does it do to rubber? Can I put it on brake calipers or will it eat the rubber seals?

It won't preserve rubber - you will need a rubber dressing

Auto balm on the upper panels is a good idea. I'll apply it and leave it on (i.e. not buff it off).

Best to buff it off

Good point about putting S50 around the inside of the panels. I'll do that as well.

What is atom-mac? I've googled it to no avail. Changing the fluid in a try when it dries out will be quite frequent and I am not planning on going there more than once every 6 months or so but this sounds like an interesting idea.

Adding some every visit will still be worth doing and will add to protective environment and spray it around the braking surfaces too

Jacking the car up is something I will try to do but I'm not sure how much space there will be around the car and this may not be practical. The other point is that if the car is in there for 10 years then the tyres will be too old to use anyway. What it would allow me to do is take the brake pads out of the calipers and store them elsewhere as this will prevent them from seizing onto the disks. Blocking the clutch pedal down is a great idea for the same reason - thanks.

Air con bomb - thanks, that's a great idea.

Mice is something I am not going to be able to do much about. Traps are about my only option. Fortunately there is a colony of cats in the garage at the moment and I'm going to try and encourage them to stay which will help discourage mice. (Yes, it stinks of cat! No, this is not a bad thing!)

Thanks again for your help.
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Pete,

Thanks again. I've spent the day putting S50 into the sills and UC onto everything else. Took all the interior panels off and put S50 behind them too. Tried to get it into the seams as much as possible. The car will be used quite a lot in the coming month before it is put away so I will put more UC on the outside of it on the day before it is stored.

One Q: I made a mistake with the two tins (which look identical!) and put UC into one sill. I realised my error and put some S50 in on top of it. I presume this won't cause any problems? (Too bad if it does; I'm not going to be able to scrape it out!)

I'm now pretty much out of my supplies of both S50 and UC so will be calling you up to buy some more. I think I'll have some more Ferrusol and some of that rather good cleaner while I am at it, as well as some Atom Mac.

Can you recommend a rubber dressing? Or a good cat to eat the mice?*

Thanks again for your help.


* PS - I was joking about the cat. Unless Bilt Hamber supply those as well.
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Pete,

Thanks again. I've spent the day putting S50 into the sills and UC onto everything else. Took all the interior panels off and put S50 behind them too. Tried to get it into the seams as much as possible. The car will be used quite a lot in the coming month before it is put away so I will put more UC on the outside of it on the day before it is stored.

One Q: I made a mistake with the two tins (which look identical!) and put UC into one sill. I realised my error and put some S50 in on top of it. I presume this won't cause any problems? (Too bad if it does; I'm not going to be able to scrape it out!)

I'm now pretty much out of my supplies of both S50 and UC so will be calling you up to buy some more. I think I'll have some more Ferrusol and some of that rather good cleaner while I am at it, as well as some Atom Mac.

Can you recommend a rubber dressing? Or a good cat to eat the mice?*

Thanks again for your help.


* PS - I was joking about the cat. Unless Bilt Hamber supply those as well.
Ha! No cats here... sorry, and I've no specific rubber dressing I can recommend at present.
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THREAD RESURRECTION!!!

OK, the plan was for the car to stay in storage for 10 years. As it was, plans changed and it's now out, and in the workshop awaiting some work being done.

Therefore I have a simple question; how do I clean off the various unctions and preservatives that I have laden onto the bodywork? I think they have been VERY effective; there doesn't seem to be any more rust on the thing than when I put it away (although sadly there is no less rust either) but it does look an absolute state; Dynax UC is not designed to make paintwork look smart and it also now has a good layer of dust ingrained into it.

What can I use to remove the Dynax UC without also removing the paint underneath?

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THREAD RESURRECTION!!!

OK, the plan was for the car to stay in storage for 10 years. As it was, plans changed and it's now out, and in the workshop awaiting some work being done.

Therefore I have a simple question; how do I clean off the various unctions and preservatives that I have laden onto the bodywork? I think they have been VERY effective; there doesn't seem to be any more rust on the thing than when I put it away (although sadly there is no less rust either) but it does look an absolute state; Dynax UC is not designed to make paintwork look smart and it also now has a good layer of dust ingrained into it.

What can I use to remove the Dynax UC without also removing the paint underneath?



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Please use white spirits for removal
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