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Old 21-04-2021, 10:49 AM   #1
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The shift to an EV........

I'm in the very fortunate position of having a company car - currently a '68 plate Volvo V90 R-Design D4. It's fully funded - lease, insurance, maintenance, tyres and fuel (inc private mileage). Yes I pay both car and fuel BIK on it but it works for me.

Our company has recently made the very bold decision to transition all it's company car fleet to electric vehicles over the next few years. Further comms were sent out to us yesterday and they are investigating the possibility of terminating leases earlier than planned. Typically our cars are on 4 year leases, I have 20 months left on mine.

So I thought I'd start a little thread to highlight my research into EVs. My model choices vary but I could be looking at a choice of the following:
  • Kia e-Nero
  • Tesla Model 3
  • Mercedes Benz EQC
  • Audi E-Tron
  • Jaguar I-Pace
  • Tesla Model S

Employees will need to make a (monthly salary sacrifice) contribution towards the desired model - which can vary from £0 to £350 per month. We'll be fully responsible for charging (whether that's at home or at public chargers) - no allowance will be given towards a home charger. The lease, insurance and maintenance will continue to be borne by the company. Business mileage can be claimed back at 4p per mile (as per HMRC rates)


Interesting time eh?!


Initial thoughts for me:
  • Daily round trip commute varies between 75 miles and 110 miles so I have no issue with range from this perspective
  • Family is all local within 30 mile round trip
  • I can have a charger at home and move to a home EV elec tariff to give me cheap (3p per KwH) off peak charging capabilities
  • Tesla Supercharger network is a positive
  • Non Tesla charging network is a negative
  • Charging on the road appears to be both expensive and problematic at times (non-Tesla)
  • Furthest client is 116 miles away so could possibly only do that with the Tesla 3 or S without a recharge
  • Don't really like the Merc
  • Think the I-Pace looks stunning
  • Not sure the Tesla 3 is large enough in the rear for my needs
  • Do have roof bars and 4 bike carriers (Thule) on the Volvo which I'd need to transfer to any new car - shouldn't be an issue


I'd welcome any thoughts if anyone has been through a similar process and I'll keep this updated as things progress or if I do test drives etc.

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Old 21-04-2021, 01:01 PM   #2
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I would look at the stated range of any EV and reduce by approx. 30% to get somewhere relative to what is achievable in the real world. The Audi e-Trons seem to have very poor ranges to start with and may discount itself for that reason.

Any reason why the BMW iX3 is not on your list to consider, essentially an electric version of the X3?

We have considered an Enyaq but reviews of the higher capacity model show a big difference between stated and real world range and has been pretty much discounted for that reason

I think the investigation / research you are doing will become familiar to us all over the next few years
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As you have the Volvo, any reason the Polestar is not a choice.
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Old 21-04-2021, 01:15 PM   #4
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Again on the theme of increasing the options open to you (although this may not be possible due to company policy), any reason for not showing the Polestar 2? Being a sister company to Volvo would mean that it should be a pretty familiar environment & infrastructure (for servicing & repairs). It's very well regarded / reviewed and they've just announced 2 new 2-wheel drive variants that are £6K / £9K cheaper than the original model. All 3 have a range that should be good for what you've described above as well.

Not sure whereabouts in Leicestershire you live, but Polestar have a test drive event running this coming weekend, with slots available in Nottingham (and Exeter, but guess that's a bit of a trek). Here's the link to book if it's of interest.
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As you have the Volvo, any reason the Polestar is not a choice.
Beat me to it (and in a much more succinct way, lol).
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Old 21-04-2021, 01:38 PM   #6
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An interesting thread - thanks.

Personally I'd avoid Tesla like the plague. This stems from their woeful reliability - something I suspect isn't an issue with the Volvo.

Good luck with your search.

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Unfortunately I don't have any control over what cars are or aren't on the list - it's all down to the lease company and what discounts they can obtain from manufacturers directly. For example, my Volvo V90 is the only one on the fleet because Volvo pulled the discount and I got in before it changed. However I do agree over the Polestar - very competitive pricing and range in line with Tesla Model 3. Should it come to it, I would challenge if it wasn't available.

Any EV would be on a 4 year lease so the reliability and longevity of the Tesla would concern me.
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The only reason to buy a Tesla in my eyes would be the need to charge on the road regularly, which is where their charging infrastructure comes into its own.

Out of your list the i-Pace would be my pick, closely followed by the e-Niro....or wait a bit and get the new Hyundai Ioniq5.

Happy Shopping!

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An interesting thread - thanks.

Personally I'd avoid Tesla like the plague. This stems from their woeful reliability - something I suspect isn't an issue with the Volvo.

Good luck with your search.

Andy.
Is this based on personal experience or hearsay?

I've no issues with mine.
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The only reason to buy a Tesla in my eyes would be the need to charge on the road regularly, which is where their charging infrastructure comes into its own.

Out of your list the i-Pace would be my pick, closely followed by the e-Niro....or wait a bit and get the new Hyundai Ioniq5.

Happy Shopping!

Cheers,

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