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Old 14-12-2019, 08:36 AM   #11
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That’s alright then, they’ll probably have someone crash into the back of them when they confuse your dazzling fogs with brake lights.

Do they not annoy you if you’re following a muppet with fog lights on in the rain?
I’m genuinely curious cause it’s frigging annoying.


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Old 14-12-2019, 09:08 AM   #12
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I hate it too.

I'm sure there's something physiological about the way our eyes work that means that IF rear fog lights are on unnecessarily and IF that driver hits the brakes the driver behind will react more slowly because the "change" in "redness" is less than with just side lights then side lights plus brake lights.

So the time when you really need to tell the driver behind that you're slowing/stopping you actually reduce the chance of them reacting quickly by having fog lights on unnecessarily.

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Old 14-12-2019, 09:26 AM   #13
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Winds me up a treat. I have to either a) actively overtake them just to get away from the glare or b) stick my full beams on until they get the message.
Daylight running lights and fogs are totally different brightness.
I have a mini too and the DRLs are non intrusive. They have a fog feature which turns the DRL bit off and the centre is then the fog light.

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Old 14-12-2019, 10:37 AM   #14
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I fully accept that the auto headlights on the Toyota are a bit over zealous but the fogs are separate and only really useful in... You guessed it... Fog

Fair point by a previous poster though about rear fogs in ridiculously heavy rain. I've done it in the past on the motorway where the spray was practically like fog.

I've also seen a few chavs locally who only drive around with sidelights and foglights on... Is this some kind of chav fashion nowadays??
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Old 14-12-2019, 11:45 AM   #15
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I was driving through really heavy rain the other week, the type where you can hardly see anything with full wiper speed and slowing down-Rear fog light was on for that because I didn't want to risk anyone going into the back of me.
I don't mind this at all if your visibility is restricted to less than 100 meters as long as when someone is right behind you or you're in traffic that you turn it off. Lazer eye surgery is not something I need yet thank you ��

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Old 14-12-2019, 07:37 PM   #16
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People just need to use sense. If there is low visibility but a lot of cars on the road, and you can see their lights, then theres no need for fogs at all. If you genuinely can't see any other lights due to poor conditions then it is justified. I have seen one maybe two days in the last few years where it has been so poor that they could be used.
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Old 15-12-2019, 02:22 AM   #17
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and you are lucky, here there are not regulation for lights use, that means people use high beam when they want, install led bars all over the cars and use them as main lights...

fog lights on when is raining is the best you can see here..
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Old 15-12-2019, 08:54 AM   #18
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I don’t think I have ever used my rear fog lights, the LED lights on my Volvo are plenty bright enough.

I always inform a driver on the motorway if they are using them and there is no need to.
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Old 15-12-2019, 09:18 AM   #19
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I don’t mind if people drive with their front fog lights illuminated (only classified like that in the UK, they are in the rest of Europe they are classified as “wide beams)
They are not blinding so I don’t see the problem, they don’t need a tell tale fitted (the little lamp on the dash)
And they don’t need to be automatically switched off like the rear fog lights.
Misuse of rear fogs is another story, I hate when they don’t switch them off when you drive behind them, you can always switch them back on when I turn of or overtake you (the last unlikely)

My other pet hate big style is the new fashion of “sweeping led indicators “ what a tosh, a flashing light is bad enough, why such a nonsenses it doesn’t improve visibility at all, rather the opesite.
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Old 15-12-2019, 11:38 AM   #20
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