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Old 06-10-2010, 05:50 AM   #1
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Working speed for 3M Fast cut +, Extrafine compound and ultrafina?

Hi.

i have just bought some new gear. i have bought the new flex PE 14-2 150 (rotary), and some 3M polish. I have bought Fast cut +, Extrafine compound and ultrafina. I have also bought some pads that matches the colour on top of the bottle.
I have heard alot of good things about 3M polishes, but i have never used it myself.

I would like to know what speeds i have to work the 3 products?

Hope to get some help on this one.

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Old 06-10-2010, 12:13 PM   #2
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Since it's related would really love input on working speed technique with flex da and ultrafina.. Would be great if 3M UK could list recommended speed with machines here as well
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OK, here's what I found. However, I'd say using Extra Fine and Fast Cut Plus in the lower to mid range of the speed guideline would be a wise choice and good place to start. Keep the pads flat and use medium pressure; don't push too hard, which is why slowing the machine down a bit can be a good choice. That way, you can take more time and care rather than going out of control and trying to blitz it in one hit.

Fast Cut Plus: 1500-2500rpm
Extrafine: 1500-2500rpm
Ultrafina: 1000-1500rpm
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Old 07-10-2010, 09:49 PM   #5
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Thanks for your answer 3M UK..

I think that i have read somewhere, that you can use some water for some of the products - Is this true, and what is the benefits of this? And when/how much do i need to use?
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Not used water myself, but I have found that FCP can dust a fair amount, so I normally add a drop of Ultrafina, which seems to reduce this dusting issue significantly.

The range is superb.
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for me personally, FC+ no more than 1500, extra fine likes it nice and fast, so about 1800, and i usually work ultrafina about 1200, then as slow as possible to finish
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Old 11-10-2010, 11:48 AM   #8
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You can use FC+ on a green pad and leave the residue on the panel. Then, spray on a bit of water and use a clean waffle pad with the residue, slowly lifting off until all removed. That gives a nice finish.

Otherwise, water and FC+ is ok if it dries up but it should normally be fine without. Extra Fine and Ultrafina shouldn't need any water.

Otherwise, if as RussZS suggests, you add Ultrafina to prevent drying out, that might work but as the mineral is smaller, it won't change the cut level, ie you'd still get the cut and finish of FC+.
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Hi there

I have found that

Fast Cut - operates best at around 1500 rpm
Extrafine - didnt really like going above 1100 rpm
Ultrafina - I found marred unless i kept at 900rpm and used almost as a glaze.

am I doing something wrong here?

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Old 15-12-2010, 07:42 PM   #10
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Hi.Slightly off topic but I seem to have trouble with extrafine on a yellow pad sticking to the paint! Is this a speed issue?
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