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Hi all,

I am looking at buying a new car and have narrowed it down to 2 cars which links are to both below -

http://www.a4autos1.co.uk/used-cars/bmw-3-series-325d-m-sport-2dr-bristol-201311019596344

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http://www.carbase.biz/used/bmw/3-s...e-in-weston-super-mare-somerset/aetv99680392/

I've always wanted a E92 with I drive, leather and all the toys and the first link is exactly it with the 19" alloys.

The second car is something I'd be happy to buy but it doesn't have the I drive nor electric seats etc.

My only concern with the E92 is the mileage I know technically it's not high but what are the common issues that I'd be likely to be facing straight away? Clutch/flywheel?

Any bushes?

I do around 13-15k a year so those miles will stack up fairly quickly.
 

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The coupe looks much better.

Those wheels on the coupe have an awful record for cracking. It is pretty common.

I'm not that clued up on the diesels, but off the top of my head, I think like my 335i, every 3rd service is a bigger one.

Most people seem to manage around 15, 000 miles between variable timing services, and with that being serviced 14, 000 miles ago it might be getting close.

Manuals aren't that desirable with 6 cylinder diesels. Most want an auto box.

The early satnav is also pretty poor. You can only search using 5 digits for the postcode. However people still want to see that and leather in a car.

You need to take each car on its own merits. There is guys with 150, 000+ and not having any issues. Quite a few have been unlucky.

E9x cars are prone to the odd interior rattle. Hopefully the previous owner has had them seen to.

There is a few diesel BMW drivers here that will be able to add more.

Places like E90post are good otherwise.
 

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Can't say that I had a great experience with the E90 I owned. It was an earlier 06 plate 320d msport, in the 14 mths I had it went in 11 times outside standard servicing (60k in that time) which being staggered was also quite regular. It was never the engine but as above, trim issues and electrics, but lots of them. I wouldn't have another E90.

I followed it with a 530d msport. What a motor and what an engine. I would have another. It was a 57 plate with Professional media so full nav but it was a year short of the upgrade that the 5's got and that the coupe you are looking at has, so it lacked the options buttons around the dial, I never struggled that much with it and I would certainly never buy one without nav.

The coupe is a good looking car, though black interior I find a bit oppressive, that's just personal, the wheels did have a reputation for cracking as already mentioned but engine wise, if it has been looked after properly I reckon 87k is just getting wormed up and it wouldn't put me off one bit if the history checks out. Memory seats a bonus and for this car a must especially if someone else is going to be sharing some driving. Clutch wear will be down to who drove it previously and at some point it will need replacing, but a good approved specialist will save you a fortune on upkeep. Also, BMW will be able to plug the key in and tell you everything about the cars history I believe. You will need to take a key to them but they used to take mine, pug it in their system and it would tell them what needed doing and bring up the cars history. :thumb:

Coupe for me out of those 2 though I do like the interior colour of the saloon.
 

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I have had mine for 4 months now and came from a new leon cupra r, r32 and several GTi's and really like it. It's brisk and is doing 44mpg with mixed driving across a week and this can be 50mpg on a run.

Check that the headlights don't have any condensation as some do and suspension knocks and noises as these will start to need replacing.

If I could have waited any longer I would have held out for a 330d but I wanted a manual so bought the 325d.

As said wheels can crack and paint bubble etc so have a good look at those and check the Tyres as you don't want to shell out for new run flats straight away!
 

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I have had mine for 4 months now and came from a new leon cupra r, r32 and several GTi's and really like it. It's brisk and is doing 44mpg with mixed driving across a week and this can be 50mpg on a run.

Check that the headlights don't have any condensation as some do and suspension knocks and noises as these will start to need replacing.

If I could have waited any longer I would have held out for a 330d but I wanted a manual so bought the 325d.

As said wheels can crack and paint bubble etc so have a good look at those and check the Tyres as you don't want to shell out for new run flats straight away!
You don't want run flats full stop. The car is so much better with normal tyres.
 

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Oh yes, good point on the tyres, the 19's are 275 wide at the rear I believe and can show 4 mm plus tread on the outside but be on the canvas on the inside. You can't see it without getting right down under the back of the car as they are so wide though.
 

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Oh yes, good point on the tyres, the 19's are 275 wide at the rear I believe and can show 4 mm plus tread on the outside but be on the canvas on the inside. You can't see it without getting right down under the back of the car as they are so wide though.
255/30x19 on the rear 225/35x19 on the front.

Very true about wear. I had inner wear on the original Bridgestones. Not on any tyre since though.
 

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What warranty does the dealer give?

You can pay for a good warranty through BMW. It will cost a bit with 87, 000 miles though.

Punch the reg in and see. My 335i is £380 per year with BMW assist.

Maybe push the dealer to pay for this warranty than their own supplier.

https://www.bmw-warranty.co.uk/?mpch=ads
Thanks for all the info guys.

Kerr it's coming back at £1248.30 per year, does that sound about right to you?

Have you used the warranty yet? If so what was the service like? Did you find them trying to worm out of fixing things?

SWEET!!!! If I put in an excess of £250 it goes right down to £636.00
 

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Most people seem to manage around 15, 000 miles between variable timing services, and with that being serviced 14, 000 miles ago it might be getting close.

Manuals aren't that desirable with 6 cylinder diesels. Most want an auto box.
What do you mean by variable timing services? I have been used to just having to change the timing belt, tensioners, water pump (not myself but paying to have done).

That is the thing really I searched high and low to find this in a manual and it was like trying to find rocking horse ......
 

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You don't want run flats full stop. The car is so much better with normal tyres.
I disagree. It's handles like a boat with normal tyres as the suspension is not set up for them.

Thanks for all the info guys.

Kerr it's coming back at £1248.30 per year, does that sound about right to you?

Have you used the warranty yet? If so what was the service like? Did you find them trying to worm out of fixing things?

SWEET!!!! If I put in an excess of £250 it goes right down to £636.00
I think you have to have all your servicing done by BMW if you take out the warranty don't you? I might be wrong on that though. Our local specialist is cheaper for servicing than it is to get my Ford serviced, where as the local BMW dealership is about 3 times the price.
 

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I disagree. It's handles like a boat with normal tyres as the suspension is not set up for them.

I think you have to have all your servicing done by BMW if you take out the warranty don't you? I might be wrong on that though. Our local specialist is cheaper for servicing than it is to get my Ford serviced, where as the local BMW dealership is about 3 times the price.
How does that go if the car hasn't got a full BSH?
 

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I disagree. It's handles like a boat with normal tyres as the suspension is not set up for them.
I'll disagree with you.

When you've only got 30/35 section tyres with 19" rims, there isn't a lot of tyre in the first instance.

The M Sport suspension is too harsh on runflats, it's better on normal tyres but still far from great.

Driving with runflats on a uneven road can be unnerving. You can feel the tyre leave the ground over ruts in the road and grip completely disappear.

I'm not utterly convinced the suspension is designed specifically for runflats. You also get the very same suspension if you go for standard 17" rims or ungraded to 19" rims. That's a huge difference.

I've not tried SE suspension and small wheels with standard tyres, but sport suspension and 19"s need normal tyres in my opinion.

It's the first thing many experienced E9x drivers do.

There is batches of 313 wheels being sold with runflats from the dealers just now for £1600. First thing guys are doing is getting the tyres replaced on new wheels and selling the runflats.

It is a choice rather than a cost saving exercise.
 

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I disagree. It's handles like a boat with normal tyres as the suspension is not set up for them.

I think you have to have all your servicing done by BMW if you take out the warranty don't you? I might be wrong on that though. Our local specialist is cheaper for servicing than it is to get my Ford serviced, where as the local BMW dealership is about 3 times the price.
This has been cleared up by Mondial who run the BMW scheme. As before, any VAT registered garage can do the servicing, but it must be BMW standard.

Any warranty claims are done at BMW dealers though.

BMW servicing isn't as expensive as people think.

If you are lucky to stay near one of the dealers on here, it can be pretty cheap.

http://www.maindealerdiscount.com/
 

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The M Sport suspension is too harsh on runflats, it's better on normal tyres but still far from great.

Driving with runflats on a uneven road can be unnerving. You can feel the tyre leave the ground over ruts in the road and grip completely disappear.

I'm not utterly convinced the suspension is designed specifically for runflats. You also get the very same suspension if you go for standard 17" rims or ungraded to 19" rims. That's a huge difference.
Admittedly we chose the 18" rims, but I can't say I've experienced any of that. The suspension is supposed to be softer to cope with the fact that the tyres have very little compliance.

It's a lot softer ride than any sports coupe or saloon I've driven before.
 

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This has been cleared up by Mondial who run the BMW scheme. As before, any VAT registered garage can do the servicing, but it must be BMW standard.

Any warranty claims are done at BMW dealers though.

BMW servicing isn't as expensive as people think.

If you are lucky to stay near one of the dealers on here, it can be pretty cheap.

http://www.maindealerdiscount.com/
How come my nearest is 35 miles away? I have a BMW garage in Stevenage about 5 miles away :confused:
 

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Thanks for all the info guys.

Kerr it's coming back at £1248.30 per year, does that sound about right to you?

Have you used the warranty yet? If so what was the service like? Did you find them trying to worm out of fixing things?

SWEET!!!! If I put in an excess of £250 it goes right down to £636.00
I haven't used my extended warranty. All my niggles came within manufacturers warranty.

Loads of guys have it on the BMW sites and I don't remember any complaints. It's always positive.

£636 sounds a lot, but the mileage is up a bit. Haggle that with the dealer to get peace of mind.
 

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What do you mean by variable timing services? I have been used to just having to change the timing belt, tensioners, water pump (not myself but paying to have done).

That is the thing really I searched high and low to find this in a manual and it was like trying to find rocking horse ......
Depending how hard you drive the car, the longer or shorter the service intervals are.

It's every 2 years or by the service indicator which measures down distance until next service. 15, 000 miles seems to the average for normal drivers. Maybe a little more.
 
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