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I thought id seek help from the obvious spot of motoring knowledge.... Im praying for an oracle at the minute


PARKING TICKET

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Private land.
No permit displayed.
Wasnt a pay and display.
60£14days/£100 28.
Very poorly lit.(pics wont upload)



Sign on entrance,150m from where car parked (with children walking). Went to look at the sign about parking, came back, ticket (thats one version of events)

Anyone avoided paying a ticket in the past? Any help much appreciated thanks
 

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If it's from a private parking company then ignore it. If it's from council etc then things are different. Does the ticket say 'Fine' or 'Penalty'? That may determine if it's from a private company.
 

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Wow thanks guys, and no id rather keep the money!!

States "parking charge notice"

Not from the council as i parked in a housing type area where flats are.

Ill look on that website peppipoo,
THIS was helpful
www.penaltychargenotice.co.uk
As i work on the highways i know a little about signage, and the above website brought that to my attention. There was no way you could read it from inside your car, and there are rules on that e.g size, colour, reflectivity, font etc etc.

Cheers!

It was from UK parking patrol office
 

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DO NOT IGNORE!!!

Ignoring is old advice for over a year.
Appeal it from the independent parking authority popla.

It will cost the parking company money to then take it further, so they may not bother to take it further as the chances are they'll lose by the info you've given.

There's plenty of great advice online.
 

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If you park on private land, such as a supermarket car park or a privately owned multi-story car park, you will have entered into a contract with the landowner. If there are signs displayed in the car park setting out rules for using the car park, then these are the terms of the contract. If any of these rules are broken, then the car park owner can take steps to enforce them. There is often a parking operating company managing the car park for the owner or landlord.

NHS boards are responsible for the management of NHS car parking facilities. There may be a private car park operator managing the car parking facilities on behalf of the NHS board.

If you park on private land without permission from the owner, or breach any conditions imposed by the owner, then the owner or someone authorised by them, may give you a parking ticket. This might look like an official fixed penalty but it isn't one. It's a notice that the owner of the car park or the private car park operator intends to take you to a civil court, and will offer to let you pay the fine to settle the case out of court. This is a civil matter, not a criminal one.

Landowners and car park operators do not need licences to issue parking tickets. It is an unregulated business although many car park operators are members of the British Parking Association.

If you get a ticket
If you get a ticket on your windscreen or through the post, and you think that it is unfair, for example, you had a good reason for staying over the time you had paid for, then you should contact the parking operator, giving your reasons and asking them to withdraw the ticket. You could also approach the private company with an interest in the car park, for example, the supermarket whose car park you had parked in, and ask them to withdraw the ticket.

If you get a ticket and you don’t think you should have to pay, you can decide not to pay and not to reply to the parking operator. It is possible that the parking operator will take enforcement action in order to recover the charge although in practice a threat of this nature may not be followed through as the amount of money being demanded is usually quite small. A parking operator has no power to recover a parking charge without first taking court action. The company may continue to send requests to pay and you can continue to ignore these unless they decide to take you to the small claims court. If the parking operator does take you to court, you may be able to defend the action, for example, on the grounds that you did not park in breach of the parking rules and/or that the fee being demanded is unreasonably high.

If the company keeps contacting you, you can ask them to stop harassing you. If the company behaves badly, you can also report to this to the landowner or to the British Parking Association if the company is a member.

If the company is a member of the British Parking Association, their procedures can be followed to complain against the parking ticket. Any member of the BPA should wait 28 days before sending a final demand.


The British Parking Association

The British Parking Association (BPA) is a professional association for the parking industry. Its members include many local authorities and parking operating companies, some of whom remove vehicles parked on private land or in private car parks and issue parking tickets.

The BPA has produced a code of practice which its members are required to follow that includes guidance on the issue of parking tickets. If you have been given a ticket, while parked on private land, you could find out if the parking operator is a member of the BPA and so should have followed the relevant code of practice.

If you have a complaint about a company which you think is a member of the BPA, you should first follow the company’s complaints procedure to try to resolve the matter. If after doing this, you still feel unhappy, you can contact the BPA. The BPA cannot become involved in individual complaints, but it will investigate whether a member company has breached its code of practice. It may then decide to suspend or withdraw that company’s membership.
 

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It seems they have ****ed up afew times,
Name of street misspelt and not specified(2 road names)
Reg number partially illegable
Parking signs are 10mm to short and wide (i measured) and are not directly illumimated. And afew more things to note.

They should be more careful, especially if they wanted and court action its not really professional by them, quite afew mistakes!!

Stuff like this is quite interesting once you read up on it
 

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A lot of info on the web - largely outdated in terms of ignore etc.

I had one of these back in june for an alleged overstay of 2 hours etc - They were a member of the BPA and it was on a private land.

First letter I got did not mention time over or photo - other than pay us £100 - which I ignored.

Next letter came through, saying pay £100 or we will progress - same thing I ignored it.

Next letter came through saying that unless I paid a new fee of £150 in next 14 days then a CCJ would be sought with increased costs to £200 etc.

Googling this step, I saw a few people that had absolute hassles trying to get these parking companies off their backs

At this point I thought feck this, sent an email to the director of the property that sat on the land explaining the poor service from the people controlling the parking, mentioned about the harassment and total lack of detail as to why no details about the charge had been given ( it was only the last letter that mentioned about an overstay ) I also discussed that the estimate of loss in accordance with parking times were extortionate and they needed to provide me with a pre-estimate of loss figure. Also discussed that it's not a great bit of PR for them. I worked out that the overstay vs the fine the parking company wanted, worked out at £5.66 per minute !!!!

They eventually came back and said I was 3o mins over - didn't really dispute that but discussed as they could not provide me an estimate of loss then there would be an overstay charge of £10 which if paid would close the case.

I couldn't be assed to fight further and knew that I had gone over the parking time so thought fairs/fair and just paid them a £10 - now case closed everyone happy and running through the meadows.

OP - I've attached a pdf which I had come across in my searches that had been written by a solicitor's assessor to one of these parking companies - it clearly discusses there downfalls and I found it useful info to arm myself with and get mine cleared.

http://www.propa-protection.com/dwimages/POPLA_Redacted.pdf

Hope it helps.

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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
Excellent. Well at this stage im definetly not worried! I may do the same as bouncer and contact the land owner for poor management, ill compile the errors they have made and post soon.
Thanks
 
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