clay will just remove surface contaminants , if its badly swirled it will need machining.
the cars probably had a filler polish which hides the swirls , so as you wash the car they gradually re appear,

 

Ah, not sure I can trust myself with one of them! :newbie:
How can you tell if its badly swirled? You cant see them in normal light but they are visible in bright sunshiiiiiiiiine.
Will the clay remove some of thw swirls then?
:driver:

 

Clay doesn't remove any swirls, don't know who's being informing you on the other forum!

Only a machine polish will get rid of them (bar a respray of course!).

Claying removes contaminents and fallout etc and if used incorrectly (it's pretty easy to clay) it can marr the paint a bit, which would then require a machine polish.

 

Clay will not remove any swirls! If you don't have access to a machine polisher, then a filler wax like AG Super Resin Polish will help hide them (layer up to improve the looks) :thumb:

 

thats just it in the sunlight youll see them , find someone in your area to run a machine polisher over it for you .
lots of good guys on here just ask nicely

 

As above - post your location, and I'm sure someone in your area will be able to offer to help out.

 

Automotive clay is not a replacement for polish or a compound; it is a pliable, petroleum resin product, Polybutene PB-1 (Polyisobutylene) containing a mild abrasive(s) i.e. kaolin, silica sand, calcium carbonate, alumina, ceramics quartz and also silicon carbide that polishes and exfoliates bonded surface contaminants by shearing ( a popular misconception - it does not pull or extract contaminants from a paint surface, if this was the case there would be no need for it to be abrasive) it is then encapsulated by the clay resin. These abrasives are extremely small with an average particle size of 1- µ (micron) dependant on the aggressiveness required, mixed in with a powdered synthetic detergent.

TOGWT

 

Nice bit of cut and pasting there mate I read that article too.

 

lol if he was confused before , i bet he wished he hadnt asked now .
nice answer though lol

 

if the swirlings getting worse then post your exact washing technique. No point in getting rid if you then go wash car and swirl it again. Wash in straight lines not in circular motion for starters.

If machine polisher is not an option then get a bottle of 3M finesse it or Megs Scratch x and loose a few days de swirling. A filler polish like SRP after that and seal with a wax. You wont get rid of all the swirls by hand but from what you have mentioned you should get pretty good results whilst burning a few hundred calories:lol:

 

You must put more thought into the wash stage if you think you are adding to the swirls. This is where the swirls are coming from... A good soak first to loosen the dirt is a good start. Are you using two buckets? Are you rinsing well?
As said, you may have used a polish with fillers in the past that is now no longer covering them like AG SRP, in which case your wash routine may be ok.

Give us a clue as to your routine.

 

The swirling seems to get worse on my car after each wash even though I have a megs microfibre mitt and megs drying towel. :wall:
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These two items will induce swirling everytime you use the car if they're not clean.

Use the two bucket method with a grit guard and bin the megs drying towel.

 

Thanks for the replies!
I use the 2 bucket method, but I do rinse the car first to get rid of the road grime.
Then I use the washmitt with AG Bodywork Conditioner and rinse off with a megs drying towel.

What is the grit guard?

 

Bin the towel and replace with something like a Sonus Der Wunder drying towel or Cobra guzzler.

Also, I've just chucked my Megs mit in favour of a Sonus lambswool one & a Schmitt - the megs one seemed to end up causing more marks than anything else!

 

Mmmmm interesting jonmiller-etc, are you from the plagiarism police

 

Oddly, the forum post I saw has now gone? Or certainly, it's not coming up on the google search. The entire article is on detailinguniversity though.

 

I think in the gaming world that's called "owned"....

nice work DrP

H

 

In reply to your "Grit Guard" question. A Grit Guard is placed into the bottom of your bucket so when you go to pick-up fresh water or rinse dirty water out, all the grit and contaminants fall through the grit guard so it cannot be picked up again and placed back onto the car, (causing swirls)

Hope this helps :thumb:

 

Hi Mattie, nice to see you on here!

 

:wave: been here for a while on and off!

Where can i get a grit guard, they sound like a top idea. :thumb:

 

so i can remove the swirls without machine polisher?

i mean, i have one, but its probably the cheapest one, though it runs in assimetric circles.

i tried it once and i think because of the machine the swirls re-appeared (and i just started to remove them bit by bit, before that )

because the swirls appeared again, i stopped using the machine, and im now doing all the polishing by hand again.

or maybe im just using it the wrong way?