the two batoca ones look the same other than one has a slimmed possibly longer neck.

It looks pretty much the same as the SPTA versions, I have the LD104. I would have liked to have gone with a rupes ibrid nano but at the time its what the wallet would allow.

 

Just be aware that these cheaper ones have hardly any power. In DA mode they stall so much, not too bad in Rotary. My advice is to get one which is genuinely a useful tool, that is the EB210 Shinemate. I need to see if I can get a Flex for reasonable money and do a comparison but the EB210 has genuinely replace a 3 inch polisher and does all the things a nano polisher will do too.

 

id love to stretch to one of those, a Flex even, but its 3-4x the price and I have seen a few videos of these Batoca that show they are powerful enough, seen videos of others though that stall with the slightest of pressure so yea something to look out for certainly, think one I saw was a max shine, which to look at looked decent enough but it had no power at all

 

I've had my SPTA nano now for a few year paid about £160 for it and not had any issues with it stalling or anything else.

For me though the Nano polishers are more that if you're going to use a 3" pad regularly with it or on bigger areas then I'd go for a mini polisher.

I bought mine to use on intricate areas and interiors I've also used it on Black gloss exterior pillars where it was more suitable than a 3" or the 3" mini wouldn't access.

Never heard of batoca before but the s6 mini looks like my SPTA apart from the American plug on it mine came with a UK plug maybe Batoca is for the US market plus I didn't get as many extras like the foam polishing cones.

EDIT: just had a look online looks like batoca is a chinese copy as main hits were on dhgate or Aliexpress.

 

I think its likely at some point I will end up with a cordless 5", so probably would need a machine thats happy to use 3", maybe the mini are better for my needs which might be the S4 from Batoca but I am sure SPTA do one too ?

 

SPTA do a few variants of their "nano polisher" which can make this a bit confusing. This is the one that I have got:

It's a cracking little machine IMHO. It works as both RO and rotary and comes with a good selection of bits, including some eminently usable foam pads. I think I got mine in a sale for around £140 delivered earlier this year. It has no problems with stalling at all, as long as the battery has adequate juice. Once it dips below about 75% strength, it can wimp out on you but that needn't be a problem if you keep on top of it.

You get two batteries in the pack and a charger. It does take a while to charge up the batteries, which might be an issue if you're planning on using it as the only polisher for the job. If you're just going to use it for the fiddly bits in conjunction with a full sized polisher, you shouldn't have any issues. I can get round a mid-sized car and only need the second battery for the last few bits because the first battery is about to wimp out.

If you're a pro and you need to bash out multiple jobs all day every day, I'd say the better chargers and batteries you get with a premium brand would be worth it - or at the very least you should buy a couple of additional spare 12v batteries (you can get these for under £10 on Aliexpress). The other negative with all of these machines is that the charger is basically a lead that plugs into the battery rather than a docking cradle type. I think this is what limits the amount of juice that can be passed into the battery while charging, making it a slower process. Also means you can only charge one battery at a time whereas certain premium brands offer cradles that can take multiple batteries. Again, I think this would be a problem if you're looking at this from a pro perspective but if you're a just a bloke looking to work on the family cars, in reality you're going to be fine.

 

yeah I have the same SPTA, I only use it for the smaller sized pads and use it as a nano rather than using it with the 3" backing plate. I invested in the Rupes HLR75 for 3inch sized use.

 

I have a Porter Cable DA at the moment which at some point in the future I would like to upgrade it but not imminently, very likely go cordless, would love a Flex but not sure funds would allow, the DeWalt or Shinemate are more likely with my budget, Rupes is definitely too pricey for me, I'm a home user at the end of the day with a young kid so my time doing the cars is limited but I'd rather not buy twice, my Porter Cable has served me well for probably 20 years

I would love a smaller machine that can do 1" and 2" and 3" but I'm getting really confused as to what's different between these machines, is it purely battery life and portability, the 2 smaller types are the ones I'm most confused about

@memzey @Shiny_N! Does that have tool free head change

 

The one I have does not have a toolless changeover. I think the one in your subsequent post does but not sure.

 

Looks like SPTA have a new one with quick release on the head

 

That looks like the in2detailing one. Forensic has done a ‘review’

 

The latest in2detailing one does look good, my budget might have to stretch to the Shinemate though lol, just been looking at those again

I'm thinking the mid sized ones might be the best, still ok at 3", not too big to do 1", and 2" is probably a sweet spot

 

The latest in2detailing one does look good, my budget might have to stretch to the Shinemate though lol, just been looking at those again

I'm thinking the mid sized ones might be the best, still ok at 3", not too big to do 1", and 2" is probably a sweet spot

if you can, go for it, it’s a game changer and night and day vs the rest.

the SPTA ones are good, I’ve had one but it’s only when you try the Shinemate, you see the difference between something cheap and something genuinely powerful.

£280 on eBay atm after a voucher

SHINEMATE EB210 - CORDLESS MINI PRO POLISHER - ORBITAL & ROTARY -INTRICATE AREAS | eBay UK

1 X SHINEMATE EB210 CORDLESS POLISHER. ShineMate EB210 cordless battery-powered mini polisher is the perfect tool for achieving a professional-grade finish on your vehicle without the need for cords or power outlets!

www.ebay.co.uk

 

I would’t spend £280 on the ShineMate. I think I got my Flex PXE for 300ish.

search hard on Google and/or call some sponsors or retailers. Get a deal on the Flex it’s worth the extra £30/40 you might spend on the SB.

 

best I could find the Flex for yesterday was about £415

 

I still have my Rupes Long neck. Only one failure was the mains attachment. The two batteries are good.
As @macca666 pointed out, the 75mm DA function is the limit and will stall, on rotary it's fine.

Reason to make the comment is the Nano is not required to do anything more and aimed at the items alluded to where the Nano handles well. . The Rupes Dueto LHR12E 75will cover that work.

RIGHT TOOL, FOR THE RIGHT JOB ..... simple.

 

I can explain this, the motor power is different even when the manufacturer states its as powerful as it is often its less or more, with these Chinas company's its varies when you hit the pressure.
With Nano polishers its key to have a small slim neck on the top plus good power delivery.
I'll try Clean your car they have decent nano polisher with a solid reputation, no need to go for a newer model Spta with extra power as the previous generation done the job they are just keeping up with the new times so they generate newer sales.
If you want to a decent manufacturer from the far east shinemate is highly vouched for as they most do on the market.

 

One thing I've been thinking about with these, the new Carbon Collective polisher looks identical to the Batoca S4 apart from colour, but 2-3x the price, does anyone think it's motor is different to the S4

 

I’m going to say no it won’t be but I’m just guessing!

 

I thought the same, which makes me think if its powerful enough for CC to put there name on it, it must be half decent

 

I bought the Batoca S4 and S2 on one of the recent Amazon deals day as it seemed to good to refuse at about £170 for both polishers and four batteries.

I've only had limited chance to use them so far, but they seem quite good. The S4 is a bit more powerful in use than the S2, but I've not had problems with either stalling in use.

I've not tried any other cordless ones to compare them to, so would be interested in what extra the premium models offer from those that have used both. I've got a DAS6 mains powered one, that I'll dig out to compare - I expect that will be a lot more powerful, but I'm really not keen on going back to a power cord.

 

Jim White got a CC Hex Nano after his Rupes iBrid Nano died and is still using it and I think I've seen recent clips of ValetNova using the CC Hex Mini. I don't think 2 pros would be using the CC stuff if it wasn't powerful enough. Other than the colours the Batoca S4 does look identical to the CC Hex Mini though, same speed range, same batteries, both even say BL Motor on the moulding on the side, can't see the wattage for the motor listed for the Batoca anywhere though.

The Hairy Housewife has done reviews of both the Batoca S2 and S4.

 

Unfortunately, the CC Hex Nano appears to be no longer available.

Like you, I have seen Jim W using it - very much like the Rupes Ibrid - and I am sure that, if he was not happy with it he wouldn't be doing so.

As for the Batocas, I have both of these and, so far, get on well with them. Again unfortunately, no-one appears to sell the B6 Mini (looks like a Nano) in the UK other than Ali-expess, and I have not ordered anything through that site as of yet. If CC ever condescend to sell the Hex Nano again I would invest in one.

 

Unfortunately, the CC Hex Nano appears to be no longer available.

Like you, I have seen Jim W using it - very much like the Rupes Ibrid - and I am sure that, if he was not happy with it he wouldn't be doing so.

As for the Batocas, I have both of these and, so far, get on well with them. Again unfortunately, no-one appears to sell the B6 Mini (looks like a Nano) in the UK other than Ali-expess, and I have not ordered anything through that site as of yet. If CC ever condescend to sell the Hex Nano again I would invest in one.

iirc, and I might be wrong, but wasn't the nano they did a rebranded SPTA, or maybe like this Batoca/mini they are doing, did that have different internals ?

 

I do wonder if CC have specced a better motor, it may come from the same supplier as apart from colour/branding its the same as the Batoca, but who knows if the internals are the same

 

ill own up to being Tempted by the smaller 3/2/1 polisher as well as the larger, interchangeable batteries "yes please"
but i have a corded 5inch polisher to go with for the larger panels, but as like most 5-6inch machines add a 3inch backing plate and hello vibrations and the curves on the motors Need 3inch pads,
1-2 inch not so much but in rotary mode for under/behind door handles and other areas it Would save the "finger polishing"

 

the big thing making me ponder , esp the batoca s4 , is the backing plates, Could they be replaced with "normal" ones or are they a batoca only thread,
plastic threads on rotating / orbiting things ,, life span questions raised, as well as the Hook part of the velcro staying on the pads, other YT reviews have noted you need to stock up on suitable glue to reafiix the hooks,

 

Hi did u find replacement backing pads? Ive just bought the s4 its a decent piece of kit!

 

I no longer need info lol, I have won a PXE80

 

Congrats @BRUN !

 

sorry no
car decided it would prefer a refresh on the suspension rather than look nice
so as of yet not bought,, but misses motor + moms have light wiper marks on windscreens,, which means a mains power "mini" would be "next" and the "would be nice 1/2/3/ cordless gets to wait longer"
*unless i decide to attempt glass correction with a cordless tool and 3inch rayon pads,,

 

Just to update re the Batoca S6 - I did get one from AE in the end and a great piece of kit it is too!

It is just the ticket for the more intricate areas - around door mirrors, into tight corners, wheels etc. The supplied batteries appear to last a decent time, I guess because the machine is not on the go all the time like a 3" or 5" DA.

To summarise, if you want a cheap 'nano' and you are just a hobby detailer (as opposed to a pro on the go day-in and day-out) then you wont go far wrong with this S6.

Get in a good supply of 1" pads though!!!

 

i take it you were using yours in 1 inch mode ?
doubt it would have the run time/power to slap 3inch rayon pads/ceri glass and wiper marks removal

 

Hi Andy - Yes, it has a 1" backing plate and long neck.